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when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of reporters who are capable, but it's a very strange and completely surprising. >> it is and i'll leave it with this, that paula broadwell just published this week, general david petraeus' rules for living. we all make mistake, learn from them, drive on and avoid making them again. next, we have more on the resignation. peter king, the chair of the homeland security committee with how it could put the u.s. at risk. plus, after spending millions to elect mitt romney, has karl rove lost his touch? a look at all the money spent and wasted this election and it has b
when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of...
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and then there is the serious parter the fbi. en toless rogue agent manages to set off a series of convenients. >> and he was a friend of jill kelley who toppled this investigation. >> this is huge. and do we want the fbi to have an agent who's able to do this in a series of actions? >> and there's still questions, serious questions about the fbi procedures in this. if indeed they concluded early on that there was no national security or criminal issue here, then why didn't it stop right there? >> and why did director claerp -- >> why did it become public? i'd like to know. >> why didn't director james clapper at that point say there is no reason to resign. >> oh. you're saying why didn't he say that. he's the white house official who essentially pushed petraeus out. let's come back to the media coverage. sigh these stories as an attempt to keep the story alive. jill kelley visited the white house three times. once was a tour and once when she had lunch with a low level official. even things that are technically true, with they'r
and then there is the serious parter the fbi. en toless rogue agent manages to set off a series of convenients. >> and he was a friend of jill kelley who toppled this investigation. >> this is huge. and do we want the fbi to have an agent who's able to do this in a series of actions? >> and there's still questions, serious questions about the fbi procedures in this. if indeed they concluded early on that there was no national security or criminal issue here, then why didn't it...
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kelly called the fbi and asked them to investigate. one of the fbi agents become obsessed with jill kelly and sent her a shirtless picture of himself. he was later removed from the case because of his role in it. the president thinks highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. the president has hut on hold general allen's nominition pending the investigation of general allen's conduct. >> folks close to general allen have been telling nbc that allen did not have an affair with jill kelly. but nothing untoward or in appropriate wend on between allen and jill kelly. is in any quarterly from the camp about this testifying as a pry variety citizen? any controversy about that? we don't know yet. would he be put under oath if he testified up on capital hill and that would behind closed doors if he does. >> thank you very, very much. i want to know if general petraeus was compromised during the investigate and shortly after he returned from benghazi. here now is former deputy secretar
kelly called the fbi and asked them to investigate. one of the fbi agents become obsessed with jill kelly and sent her a shirtless picture of himself. he was later removed from the case because of his role in it. the president thinks highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. the president has hut on hold general allen's nominition pending the investigation of general allen's conduct. >> folks close to general allen have been...
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. >>> now, to the timeline, when this fbi investigation began, and new questions tonight about why the white house and congress did not hear of it until much later. here's abc's senior justice correspondent pierre thomas tonight. >> reporter: sources tell abc news jill kelly considered those e-mails a threat not only to herself, but petraeus. after the fbi was contacted, and an investigation uncovered a sordid affair between petraeus and broadwell, there were early concerns that the cia director's security government e-mails could have been hacked. but the probe never turned up evidence of national security being compromised. what it did find was lots of human drama. key members of congress want to know why didn't they weren't told. >> we with received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. consider top intelligence officials were not told until election day. the president was told the dale after. >> the president should have been told about it at the earliest date. >> reporter: >> the official complaint was harassment. it could have gone to e-mail hacking. but there was no s
. >>> now, to the timeline, when this fbi investigation began, and new questions tonight about why the white house and congress did not hear of it until much later. here's abc's senior justice correspondent pierre thomas tonight. >> reporter: sources tell abc news jill kelly considered those e-mails a threat not only to herself, but petraeus. after the fbi was contacted, and an investigation uncovered a sordid affair between petraeus and broadwell, there were early concerns that...
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after the fbi was contacted, and an investigation uncovered a sordid affair between petraeus and paula broadwell, there were early concerns that the cia director's secure government e-mails could have been hacked. but the probe never turned up evidence of national security being compromised. what it did find, as one source put it, was lots of human drama. key members of congress want to know why didn't they weren't told. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. >> reporter: top intelligence officials were not informed until election day. the president was told the day after. >> the president should have been told about it at the earliest date. >> reporter: but a former fbi agent said the bureau followed protocol. >> the initial complaint was harassment. it possibly could have gone to e-mail hacking. but there was no substantive information that this had anything to do with national security. >> reporter: administration officials said the timing of the disclosure had nothing to do with politics, but congress is vowing to investigate, david. >> pierre thomas, thank
after the fbi was contacted, and an investigation uncovered a sordid affair between petraeus and paula broadwell, there were early concerns that the cia director's secure government e-mails could have been hacked. but the probe never turned up evidence of national security being compromised. what it did find, as one source put it, was lots of human drama. key members of congress want to know why didn't they weren't told. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt....
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it's the fbi. you dent think they are going to follow up? have you never watched an episode of any show ever? really? >> and really unnamed fbi agent, you became obsessed with a woman while investigating her in an e-mail scandal and then e-mailed her shirtless photos. really? weiner, chris lee, brett favre, it's 2012. it's time to recognize the male physique carries zero allure. stop sending us pictures of it. >> don't you watch "homeland"? that show is this exact story line. i defy you to find one happy character in that whole show. no really. go ahead. >> really? >> really. defend your gender. >> that's pretty good. >> i used to write novels and sometimes i look at things that happen in life and it's like if you put that in a novel. and i was doing magic realism. even in a novel, this would not work. it would not be believable. you can't help but mwonder if a modern shakespeare who would write this novel. i would imagine it would be a combination of e.l. james meets tom clancy and write "50 shades of red october." it would look really cool
it's the fbi. you dent think they are going to follow up? have you never watched an episode of any show ever? really? >> and really unnamed fbi agent, you became obsessed with a woman while investigating her in an e-mail scandal and then e-mailed her shirtless photos. really? weiner, chris lee, brett favre, it's 2012. it's time to recognize the male physique carries zero allure. stop sending us pictures of it. >> don't you watch "homeland"? that show is this exact story...
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we now know the identity of the fbi agent who triggered the investigation into the petraeus affair. >> frederick humphries, a veteran agent who infamously sent shirtless pictures of himself to a key player in the scandal. and president obama now has spoken out about the unfolding mess. abc's mark greenblat has the latest on that. good morning, mark. >> reporter: paula, rob, good morning. the president's remarks came in his first press conference since the election. and he tried to remind the nation that there is more to the david petraeus story than just an affair. the president weighed in for the first time on the sex scandal that captured the nation's attention. and forced david petraeus to resign as director of the cia admitting to an affair with his biographer paula broadwell. >> i have no evidence that classified information was disclosed that in any way would have had a negative impact on our national security. >> reporter: another respected four-star general caught up in the scandal got a vote of confidence from the secretary of defense. john allen is accused of exchanging pote
we now know the identity of the fbi agent who triggered the investigation into the petraeus affair. >> frederick humphries, a veteran agent who infamously sent shirtless pictures of himself to a key player in the scandal. and president obama now has spoken out about the unfolding mess. abc's mark greenblat has the latest on that. good morning, mark. >> reporter: paula, rob, good morning. the president's remarks came in his first press conference since the election. and he tried to...
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>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david, and richard, that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, "your business" with j.j. ramberg. since my first twenty-ninth birthday. [ female announcer ] head & shoulders. live flake free. campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the...
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when the president talked about the fbi has a protocol. they followed it but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. still questions about why this investigation began whether it was appropriate for the fbi to investigate this. fran townsend, appreciate it. there is new information on jill kelley and her husband scott. they started a charity and dissolved it later. >> drew joins me, what have you learned? >> another twisted part of this tale. as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard she and her husband were battling a bank and court because the documents show the red brick house that we have been showing purchased in 2004 for $1.5 million four years later the bank files to foreclose on the kelly's because the bank says they hadn't sent in a mortgage payment since september 2009. the kellkelleys show they are n other lawsuits involving money and the kelley family. >> what about the charity? >> it was called the dr. kelley cancer foundation. it was to conduct research and efforts of term ali ill patients
when the president talked about the fbi has a protocol. they followed it but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. still questions about why this investigation began whether it was appropriate for the fbi to investigate this. fran townsend, appreciate it. there is new information on jill kelley and her husband scott. they started a charity and dissolved it later. >> drew joins me, what have you learned? >> another twisted part of this tale. as jill kelley was...
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>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david corn and thank you, dee dee myers. >>> coming up, buy romney lost i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it
>> well, i think richard mentioned the fbi investigation of paula broadwell. paula broadwell is general petraeus' biographer, and somebody who has been close to him. in literary circles. to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and...
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you know in the access to the e-mails that the fbi investigation. clearly will be questions and probably an investigation into whether our intelligence community was compromised by this. all indications are that it wasn't. but gene is right this also comes in a political contest which is the growing intensity of the growing investigations into what happened with respect to benghazi. there's so many balls in the air here. it's an awkward time for the cia to have this happen. there's never a nonawkward time but this is a particularly awkward time and for the ard mrgs as well which that's to shuffle the stop staff at the same time they're expected to asking questions from congress. i expect multiple story lines. >> i want to sam rise. law enforcement officials tell nbc news that the fbi is investigating the general's bog fer paula broadwell for improperly trying to access general petraeus's e-mail and potentially accessing classified information. the officials say they do not believe this will result in any criminal charges. they also stressed that gen
you know in the access to the e-mails that the fbi investigation. clearly will be questions and probably an investigation into whether our intelligence community was compromised by this. all indications are that it wasn't. but gene is right this also comes in a political contest which is the growing intensity of the growing investigations into what happened with respect to benghazi. there's so many balls in the air here. it's an awkward time for the cia to have this happen. there's never a...
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see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a predicate and is this a priority. that's not clear until you trace this for awhile and get to petraeus, and the question i'm raising is why, what was the predicate, why did they pursue it. >> once it gets to petraeus, tom, and i want your expertise here, what would happen? because i would imagine as soon as they realized david petraeus is involved, there must be a whole series of hoops they have to jump through or markers they have to hit. >> once they identified paula broadwell as the sender of the messages to kelley, then they subpoena the rest of her records and they see an exchange of anony
see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a...
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fbi agents are currently at the home of paula broadwell. wcnc-tv in charlotte are reporting that agents arrived at broadwell's home at 9:00 p.m. and took boxes and suitcases and photos from the foam. a spokeswoman confirms the report and says it's a consensual search and not a raid or "a game changer." the fbi official says it is one of the final steps to closing out their investigation of broadwell. also tonight, "the wall street journal" reports new details how the federal bureau of investigation handled the case suggests even as the bureau delve into mr. petraeus' personal life, the agency had to address questionable conduct by one of its own, including allegedly sending shirtless photos of himself to a woman involved in the case. that woman is jill kelly, a family friend of petraeus, who first brought to the fbi's attention troubling e-mails she was receiving from an anonymous e-mail account operated by paula broadwell. we heard from the ghost writer of broadwell's biography of petraeus. he says my wife says i'm the most clueless person
fbi agents are currently at the home of paula broadwell. wcnc-tv in charlotte are reporting that agents arrived at broadwell's home at 9:00 p.m. and took boxes and suitcases and photos from the foam. a spokeswoman confirms the report and says it's a consensual search and not a raid or "a game changer." the fbi official says it is one of the final steps to closing out their investigation of broadwell. also tonight, "the wall street journal" reports new details how the federal...
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the fbi agent was never on the case. he brought the information to the fbi, but he was never part of the original investigation because he was a friend of miss kelley's. >> so what is all this thing about him being frustrated because he wasn't on the case? what was that about? >> he was frustrated because he learned about the information that was being gathered. he brought the original case, he was frustrated that the information about petraeus and broadwell had not come out yet, and he thought that the justice department and the fbi were dragging their feet, so he -- that's why he went to the hill. >> okay. let me get back to david on this, on the military end of this thing. why was petraeus basically forced to resign? why did the matter come to his superior, mr. clapper, head of intelligence -- all the intelligence services? why was it going through channels? why did he get confronted with basically a request to resign? how did that happen if this wasn't criminal, what he was doing? >> because he wasn't on active duty,
the fbi agent was never on the case. he brought the information to the fbi, but he was never part of the original investigation because he was a friend of miss kelley's. >> so what is all this thing about him being frustrated because he wasn't on the case? what was that about? >> he was frustrated because he learned about the information that was being gathered. he brought the original case, he was frustrated that the information about petraeus and broadwell had not come out yet,...
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why would an fbi agent go to him? >> well, he actually went -- a friend of this fbi agent went to a representative from washington state originally. there was some kind of personal connection with the fbi agent's friend and he went to eric cantor. >> i see. >> one thing that's important to say, i mean, you talked about the sex and scandal is apparently the national security concerns have all been knocked down. at this point there don't appear to be from the justice department or from the fbi any national security concerns. >> well, let me go to david wood on that very point. david, your sense of this watching it from above, meaning from the policy level looking at the sordidness of this, what does it mean? it looks like petraeus' career has ended. he did the honorable thing i think in the end by just falling on his sword. that's over with. what about general allen, our commander in afghanistan? this would seem to be somewhat distracting to be sending something like 30,000 e-mails or whatever out. i don't even know how
why would an fbi agent go to him? >> well, he actually went -- a friend of this fbi agent went to a representative from washington state originally. there was some kind of personal connection with the fbi agent's friend and he went to eric cantor. >> i see. >> one thing that's important to say, i mean, you talked about the sex and scandal is apparently the national security concerns have all been knocked down. at this point there don't appear to be from the justice department...
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she is the florida woman whose complaints to the fbi eventually led to petraeus' resignation. in a new twist to the david petraeus sex scandal, the pentagon says that the top commander in afghanistan, general john allen, is under investigation, for sending allegedly improper e-mails to jill kelly. kelly is the florida woman who triggered the investigation and ultimately forced petraeus to resign. the pentagon is reviewing between 20,000 and 30,000 documents involved. allen, meanwhile, denies any wrongdoing and remains in his current position. late monday, agents spent nearly five hours at the home of petraeus' former mistress, paula broadwell, leaving early this morning with several boxes. this, after the fbi told abc news they discovered thousands of e-mails between broadwell and petraeus, detailing the affair. >> in his universe, this moral failing is unacceptable and renders him unworthy of continuing this position of responsibility for the nation. >> reporter: the affair came to light over the summer, as part of an fbi investigation that began after jill kelly received thr
she is the florida woman whose complaints to the fbi eventually led to petraeus' resignation. in a new twist to the david petraeus sex scandal, the pentagon says that the top commander in afghanistan, general john allen, is under investigation, for sending allegedly improper e-mails to jill kelly. kelly is the florida woman who triggered the investigation and ultimately forced petraeus to resign. the pentagon is reviewing between 20,000 and 30,000 documents involved. allen, meanwhile, denies...
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the fbi has asked for all documents back. when the agents ascended on her home it was a pre-arranged meeting. and it was complicated by the fact that she was authorized to see the documents because she was an intelligence officer in the reserves. >> cenk: now we turn to jill kelley, who is accused of being overly flirtatious that's is a crime these days? we do investigation on this? >> kelley lives near mcneil air force base where friends say she ingratiated herself with the brass through parties and favors. court documents re revealed that jill kelley and her husband have been sued at least nine times and face foreclosure on her home. >> cenk: man, rich people are fascinating. throw big parties all the generals come. charge it to someone and they sue you later. why are we in her life? is it the sex drama, all right let's have it, hoss. we have more details on it and let's bring in kim delaney. ken, thanks for joining us. first, do you have an update on the shirtless shirtless fbi agent--this is absurd--that started the inves
the fbi has asked for all documents back. when the agents ascended on her home it was a pre-arranged meeting. and it was complicated by the fact that she was authorized to see the documents because she was an intelligence officer in the reserves. >> cenk: now we turn to jill kelley, who is accused of being overly flirtatious that's is a crime these days? we do investigation on this? >> kelley lives near mcneil air force base where friends say she ingratiated herself with the brass...
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you have a situation where the fbi, let's start with the fbi. they going into ms. broadwell, what's her name again? >> paula broadwell's. >> paula broadwell's house and taking out boxes of stuff. now there san accusation that she may have had national security stuff in there? what's that all about. >> remember, she a reservist with military intelligence. she lt. colonel. it's not clear whether she was activated. but she did have a clearance at one point. so, supposedly, she took classified documents. she took them from government facilities but she wasn't allowed to have them in her house. so they are looking at whether or not national security breaches. david petraeus was not responsible for giving her those documents. kelley and petraeus at this point is just a personal matter an embarrassing personal matter, that's all. no other national security implications. >> between broadwell, yeah. between paula broadwell and david petraeus, it's an affair, there are questions whether she could be charged under the uniform code of military justice if she was activated in h
you have a situation where the fbi, let's start with the fbi. they going into ms. broadwell, what's her name again? >> paula broadwell's. >> paula broadwell's house and taking out boxes of stuff. now there san accusation that she may have had national security stuff in there? what's that all about. >> remember, she a reservist with military intelligence. she lt. colonel. it's not clear whether she was activated. but she did have a clearance at one point. so, supposedly, she...
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it doesn't add up. >> top fbi officials met with law makers wednesday. senator diane fine stein described it as. >>> also agreed to testify about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the new details are still being worked out. >> the president added that he had an extraordinary career and by his own assessment that he did not meet the standards of his job. at the white house, daniel. >> continues with our peggy fox. neighbors are reacting to the media stake out at broadwell's brother's home. >> reporter: this is where paula is staying and photographers and photo journalists are standing out here camping out waiting for paula to come outside and say something. it's been like a came of cat and mouse. she came out early this morning in the 5:00 a.m. for an early morning run and gave most photographers the slip. >> it's just crazy. it's like a small big town. >> the stake out the paula's brother's home includes a dozen of photo journalists. >> i thought it was a movie set. >> some are on the sidewalk and some are in the public alleyway behind
it doesn't add up. >> top fbi officials met with law makers wednesday. senator diane fine stein described it as. >>> also agreed to testify about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the new details are still being worked out. >> the president added that he had an extraordinary career and by his own assessment that he did not meet the standards of his job. at the white house, daniel. >> continues with our peggy fox. neighbors are reacting to the media...
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she goes to the fbi. and that's how they get to the affair. >> this other woman, and we know she's not in the government and that she's not a family member, complained to the fbi about what she felt were harass k and threatening e-mails. it was that investigation that led -- they were anonymous e-mails. that led to broadwell's e-mail account. and by examining broadwell's, paula broadwell the biographer's e-mail account that's they uncovered or stumbled as they put it into this -- >> there were actually explicit e-mails between broadwell and petraeus. >> or some indication in those e-mails of an ongoing relationship. that's according to fbi officials and other officials with whom we've spoken. it was that -- and we should stress, there was never an investigation into petraeus. and they have pretty much shut down any idea that there was any kind of security or national security leaks. so this is not a criminal matter. and it would have rested there had not, and this is what is new in the last 24 hours, had
she goes to the fbi. and that's how they get to the affair. >> this other woman, and we know she's not in the government and that she's not a family member, complained to the fbi about what she felt were harass k and threatening e-mails. it was that investigation that led -- they were anonymous e-mails. that led to broadwell's e-mail account. and by examining broadwell's, paula broadwell the biographer's e-mail account that's they uncovered or stumbled as they put it into this -- >>...
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he is fbi veteran agent frederick humphries. notorious for sending shirtless photos of himself to another key player in the scandal. >> he says it was just a lighthearted joke. that woman would be jill kelly, seen on the right, which claims she was threatened by petraeus' lover. she has been stripped of her special access to macdill air force base in tampa. and paula broadwell is under investigation for storing military documents, on her computer. and for the first time president obama has weighed in on this mess. preeti arla has the latest. >> reporter: president obama walked into the east room of the white house for his first postelection news conference, tackling the major issues the administration will face in the weeks ahead. >> i'm open to compromise. and i'm open to new ideas. >> reporter: the president meets with congressional leaders tomorrow. both sides are expected to stake out their positions on the looming fiscal cliff, which will see tax encreases and budget cuts go into effect if there's no budget deal by year end
he is fbi veteran agent frederick humphries. notorious for sending shirtless photos of himself to another key player in the scandal. >> he says it was just a lighthearted joke. that woman would be jill kelly, seen on the right, which claims she was threatened by petraeus' lover. she has been stripped of her special access to macdill air force base in tampa. and paula broadwell is under investigation for storing military documents, on her computer. and for the first time president obama...
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to have the fbi investigating or monitoring and surveilling the e-mail account of the director of the cia for four or five months, they would have to get a federal court order to do that and now we're hearing there is no crime involved. for that to go on for a long period of time for something that is not criminal and yet if they go -- if the fbi felt it was important enough to get a federal court order, it's an obligation to tell the president of the united states that the cia director was involved, at least the focus of the investigation, whether or not he was a target, he was involved in something that could make him susceptible to blackmail. it's hard to believe that this went on for so long without anybody being told at the white house. i would think that the fbi has an obligation to tell the president that this type of investigation was going on and the white house was told about it the very day of the elections. it raises a lot of questions and this doesn't added a up. >> why weren't the house and senate intelligence committees alerted? >> my understanding is that the house int
to have the fbi investigating or monitoring and surveilling the e-mail account of the director of the cia for four or five months, they would have to get a federal court order to do that and now we're hearing there is no crime involved. for that to go on for a long period of time for something that is not criminal and yet if they go -- if the fbi felt it was important enough to get a federal court order, it's an obligation to tell the president of the united states that the cia director was...